I've been on these products for 3 months, I started doing 100 mcg each 3 times a day so: on workout days in the morning 20/30 minutes before breakfast, 20/30 minutes before lunch, and immediately after the workout . on days I did not train the pin I did right after training I did it 20/30 minutes before dinner. after a few days I noticed more fullness in the muscles and more vascularization, my hunger was crazy, after about a week I put on 2 kg, I also saw some water retention, so I decided to lower the dosage to 80 mcg of each, hunger has stabilized and water retention is gone.
Testosterone Propionate Many consider propionate to be the mildest testosterone ester, and the preferred form for the dieting/cutting phases of training. Some will go so far as to say that propionate will harden the physique, while giving the user less water and fat retention than one typically expects to see with a testosterone.
During a typical cycle one will see action that is consistent with a testosterone. Users sensitive to gynecomastia and water retention may therefore need to add an anti-estrogen like Arimidex, Femara or Aromasin. Those particularly troubled by gynecomastia may find that a combination of Nolvadex and Proviron works especially well at preventing/halting this occurrence.